mikecolangelo
Well-known member
On a side note, this is a heck of a thread!
I predict that we'll reach 14 pages by Sunday.
I predict that we'll reach 14 pages by Sunday.
I have played all my experience and knowledge from a participants point of view as well as a business perspective along with stats from other industry crisis that parallel with this current discussion. I have delivered the following:
Market / advertising
stereotype busters
seminars / 30 minute demonstration at each event on both days.
Pit assistant program for new comers.
pre trial discount opportunity to fill the field
Look at leaniancy of licensing exclusive to endurance racing only
Brochures on "How to win at endurance racing" the dos and don't's. ( the booth idea is someone else)
How to get quality seat time at half the cost.
build a winning endurance team for less than the cost of a season of sprint racing
Rules and classes that don't break the entry level "buy in"
Offered suggestions on building a competitive endrance car for less than 5k including support.
Identify your goal and re invent the club not re invent the wheel.
For those that are interested that can't pull the trigger: have a list of credible shops that can do all or part of the prep work.
I am not a member here but am passionate about endurance racing and some day return to the North to win some races from you guys!
Maybe I'm an example of your target audience?
I participate in the ICSCC/SCCA sprint races because I get a huge thrill out of driving my car at the limit (probably my limit more than my car's limit) for 30 minutes. I appreciate the high caliber of drivers found in Conference and the SCCA. Racing with them helps me improve as a driver.
Honestly, driving in a Conference enduro race really doesn't appeal me. If I'm going to drive in an endurance race, I'll do it for the social and entertainment aspects more than anything else. That's why I really want to do more crapcan races this year. Lemons, ChumpCar, etc. all offer that and over the course of a weekend. Plus, they tend to be more casual and most teams don't take it too seriously.
For me, at least, it's not about the Conference enduro entry fees. I think they're reasonable. It's other things as I mentioned above.
So, my motorsorts plan for 2012 is to race in Conference sprint races and at least a couple Lemons, ChumpCar, RollX-16, etc. crapcan endurance races.
Just my $0.02 (US). ;-)
So Mike...if you already possess a car which could slip into an existing class within the Cascade Enduro for instance, why then would you PREFER to build another car for a Chump/Lemons race? Now if you have neither car, it is certainly cheaper to build a crap can racer than a sprint race car.
Bill-
it is certainly cheaper to build a crap can racer than a sprint race car.
Who said I was building another car? I was hoping to join a team.
good call clarifying Chumpcar vs sprint car in cost! Unfortunately, it is only the same 6 people on this thread that give a crap and want to make something happen. I see some good stuff here so why dosn't any one take the effort and get something going. People do need to know in advance to how they are going to plan their race season. As the economy thightens and continues into uncertainy, so goes the racing dollar. This will leave many chosing their favorite track and parking the cars reducing revenue.
Bill,, shouldn't this plug be under a different heading? I wish Star Projects the best with their events though
"The good news: Drivers that come to racing by this door (Re: Chump, Lemons, Rats, etc.) soon figure out that the cheapest way to go faster is to learn to drive better. That is good for our schools (Re: Collectively ICSCC clubs, and others). The second good thing is many of these guys have expressed an interest in trying Conference racing."-- Bill Murray
I tend to agree with that statement, it's a simple logic, so I re-iterate with no commercial intent. More seat time equals better skills development, and isn't practice less expensive than spending the untold $$ on engine and drive train, especially for the amateur non-sponsored novice type?
Besides, most race cars can already go faster than their pilots anyway.
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I'd bet dimes to donuts that would even apply to IT-Jalopy.
You guys just don't get it, do you?
At 90-100 minutes of track time per event in club racing, that would mean a club would need to hold 13-15 events a year.